and Time Trading Game?
I have never heard many traders ever say that they know more than “he hid all his teaching techniques in numbers and symbols, which are hard to find.”
Gann’s “mystical” numbers, ratios, and predictions fascinate every trader.
But they quit trying to understand all his squares and number sets, when they find out they have to use more than 8th grade math for the answer.
Every trading system, guru, software package, or future market direction prediction newsletter, sets its retracement lines to a random set of what you “see,” from the past high and past low, off random reverses off enthusiasm (on highs) and final exhaustion sell-offs, (on lows). Do you?
Few traders know anymore about Gann or trading his techniques than how to set any two extremes, into a frame of 8/8ths. Then begin to expect their market to run up or down (.382) or (.618) inside its current 8/8th (that we set) off our own “perceived” rhythm of any market’s current speed as measured by its current 1/8th.
Either you pick two arbitrary extremes as the high or low, or your software picks them for you.
Who is more qualified?
Who is more correct? There are plenty of gurus out there to confuse you today and tomorrow.
Or markets are really running to pre-set pure math 8/8ths?
T. Henning Murrey is the 1st Gann student, to “see” and understand, that all markets are moving inside a Square (starting with the 1st Square of 100). This is the Harmonic Rhythm.
W. D. Gann mentions the number “100” once in his famous commodities book, when he describes “Natural Numbers.” That was your “clue.”
Did you recognize it? Cast it aside? Forget it? Ignore it? Not understand? Get upset?
2.5 million Gann students, from 1929, rejected the simplicity and musical exactness of 100 as the 1st perfect trading Octave for all markets.
Why does every expert trader miss what Gann was trying to tell you? Too much innuendo?
W. D. Gann told you to ignore it. But T. Henning Murrey is given credit as having been the 1st to catch it and share it.
Nikki Jones, is here in Australia this week speaking to different groups about what Gann said and how he said it. Do you want to know?
She was presented with my book back in 1994.
My 1st chapter on Gann recorded how I saw his words to be riddles for the “masses.” Are you?
Nikki Jones has more original W. D. Gann notes, yet others are still trying to decipher his truths.
Most traders would enjoy the search more than the profits. Class is early tomorrow. Sign up.
All the “prophets” are already dead.
Why do traders keep searching and missing the clues? They really don’t want to know.
Deductive reasoning is the reason.
If you accept one basic premise of logic, then you may infer and prove the same “thing” (theory), so any market will always move at 3/8th or 5/8th at the same speed (but not the same price) as any other market.
Gann told you so many complicated math formulas, you finally gave in and believed him every time he created a new “math set formula” that would look almost mystic, but was simply taking the obvious (price moving inside a square) and finding its current trading Octave. That’s it.
Gann was doing as we do
Nothing but to look and watch price action to its own Internal Harmonic Rhythm inside its square frame (set automatically by our brains).
The Murrey Math Trading System has taught thousands of students to learn to “see” that Murrey and Gann are one in the same frame.
But the simplest difference is Murrey Math is willing to teach you what Gann left in the occult, hidden, secret math formulas, which are too hard for most students to see. Have you seen?
Presently, I, T. Henning Murrey, Master Level Trader # 13., am seated in the camp of Mr. Rob Philberts, a two year student of mine, who came to learn Murrey Math through another MM student, Mr. Stephen Lewis of The Gold Coast, Australia.
The Gold Coast, Australia.
How could a “cornball” 56.25 year old man, from Tennessee, with no job, no financial background, or trading of commodities or stocks, who never read more than one book by W. D. Gann, see what Gann took to his grave? 100.
Gann loved to place his rules in so many tricky dates. He paid many astrologers to help him with his market reversal expectations into the future set off past history.
Evangaline Adams was the best female astrological stock market “guru,” who lived in NYC, at the time of Gann, and predicted the 1929 crash to the hour, minute, and day.
Who cares? Your grandfather laughed at her when she said it. The market was headed higher.
The stock market went up almost everyday in 1929 and then it did it again in 1987 and everyone said “who cares?” Then it crashed!
Only one American in 1,000 will ever take a profit in their mutual fund. So who listens?
Peter Lynch advertises on TV. to attack your mutual fund strategy as you would expect children to try and “feel” adult problems. What?
Fidelity Magellan Mutual fund went down –15.%, when the stock market went down –15.%. What a service to depend on to say “hello, sell.”
Are they powerless to do anymore than just watch also? Did you react? Did they call you?
In 1929, August, the US stock market went up, then it fell back down and formed support. W. D. Gann told everyone that “support” is the # 1. Rule to common sense trading markets going up (long): so do you close losses below support?
What does support mean?
So many “bogus” trading lexicons are being shared over the internet today, most traders are lost when they don’t buy the latest abbreviated magic formula to help them see what you are already looking at. Do you own one?
W. D. Gann told you to expect a Crash on a certain day because our US stock market fell below its support level from its last low. Who listened? Who cares about support these days?
It was well off its highs. Markets crash only when the last support is taken out and the market seeks lower lows for support. Who ever looks at old lows? No one now!
Any rookie trader, could have told you, that if a market goes up, then falls, then goes up, then comes back down to its old lows, then falls below its support, it is now going lower.
It is going back down to its lower lows, for support, toward a cheaper level, that normal humans would see value, and would want to support its current price levels, and start buying and run the market prices back up short-term.
Greed is the only reason any trader stays in when any market reaches all-time highs. Greed is fun. Correct? Greed feels better than need.
W. D. Gann made an average of 12 trades per day, so his trades lasted an average of no more than 45 minutes in length. How long do you choose to stay in a trade: Years or months, or days? Why not copy the master trader? Can’t?
Did the US stock market crash down to its all-time lows in only one week or could you have exited back above the Crash Day’s lows before it kept falling? Would greed have kept you in? Did your grandfather tell you to “Buy Low” and “Sell Often?” Or was he happy to just hold on?
W. D. Gann bought and sold short-term, yet everyone wants to sit and pray because they don’t have the “feel” of their market or they refuse to take a small loss, or a small profit. Why?
Traders have conditioned themselves to be “slaves” of the computer and more a slave of too much data and far too much “cockpit” UFO decision-making sightings. Where are you?
W. D. Gann would rollover in his current trading pit, if he saw all the weird logic out there now trying to “fog” the obvious: price change.
Any blind person can remember any last high or low reversal, so why do we clutter our computer screens with too much information? Do you?
Rich, idle, day traders, want to spend hours mathematically recording what they already see on the screen. Why? Nothing better to do?
They are the next “Gann.” Sure?
Folks, Gann and I were the only ones to see the number 100 and trade it. So why try harder?
Please, relax and quit trying to restructure the Base of Ten or keep thinking all markets are random. How tall are you at birth? Too late!
All markets are perfect and set themselves exactly to an Internal Octave set inside the Square of 100. Your height is known at once.
Gann saw it and me too. So please accept it or you will be left behind when the market speeds up. Most traders refuse to trade in fast market conditions. Can you? Only 12.5% can or will.
Last May and June, when the markets were most volatile, Charles Schwab and Co. reported a minus 25% decrease in trading of shares. Why?
More mentally distraught day traders in the US now kill passersbys only in fast market conditions, when they can’t accept the “fast market conditions.” Why? No trading system?
Anyone with extra money has the right to tell their friends they are a “day trader.” 87.5% of all so-called day traders are simply wasting everyone’s time because they are just playing “day-trader.” Do you? Give the broker money?
If traders had to wear red nail polish on every finger for every loss, most day traders would be wearing white gloves or keeping their hands in their pockets. Who has polish on their toes?
If every trading group had to present their trades (wins vs. losses), to their club, or E Group, to attend the current meeting, we wouldn’t have to endure all this theory b. s. on the ‘net.
Traders are looking for the Holy Grail or trying to create one more indicator that is better than just asking the simple question, “where is the current price against the last low or high and where do we sell a profit?” Do we need to see more? Or do you just want to win a trade?
I teach my students to “think” like me and to trade off the same square of 100 that W. D. Gann and I know really is the Holy Grail of Trading (as long as you use the Base of Ten). Believe us?
Math is a perfect expression of what you can see but not what you can feel. Do you feel trends?
How do you feel about 3/8th and 5/8th as representing what Gann said was the “natural” reverses for markets?
This 3/8th and 5/8th reversal rule is the 2nd most widely known and used. What does it really mean? Who really understands it? Do you?
Every software trading system, software program, guru, and future predictor newsletter, will tell you how to measure future time reversals off any present or past highs or lows as an expression of .382 or .618. Right? Wrong.
Predicting the future is about as meaningful as telling someone how tall your new baby will be at 18.3/4 years. Who cares when 75% love to eat.
Most newsletter gurus don’t trade nor do they even care? How much do you pay to read it?
If I told you that the future prices predict themselves, you would think I am weird, but it would still be true. More should listen now.
If you saw a square of 100, what would you guess to be 3/8th of 100? Gann told you to see 100.
37.5. And if your mind could accept this 3/8th, would your mind imagine a larger square of 1,000 to have its 3/8th set at 375? Gann never considered it. But I did. So did Katie and Mallory from Australia, when they charted.
How many computer programs would you have to write to “discover” what Gann and I already know: all markets are 100% set inside its square of 100? Set to an Internal Octave of music?
Accepting this basic premise means you wasted your time learning “bogus” trading rules off random lines or you can’t accept the fact that the Universe will come back to the same time and date cycle every four years. They are “copying me now.” My birth date in 2,000 a.d.
99.9999% of all new traders don’t really care if markets are random or exact, when they begin their learning curve. After some study they think they are smarter than us: me and W. D. Gann.
Presently, I am relaxing after having given Murrey Math Learning Academy Lessons in Brisbane (3), The Gold Coast (2), Melbourne, and now I am off to Sydney and back to Brisbane, then over to Conroy, and then over to the Outback, then finally back to The Gold Coast and Brisbane: before leaving Australia.
Hundreds of new students have been introduced to Murrey Math: the real Murrey Math (not the bogus knock-off internet sights springing up to say they are better than me and W. D. Gann. What a joke? Why go backwards?
Presently I am seated in a cabin (one of 4) on a working farm. There are thousands of cattle, hundreds of “fenced” deer, and over 12,500 acres at the headwaters of the Brisbane River, with over 150 miles of roads inside his trading frame (cattle farm), 2 hours west of Conroy, Australia, writing an article to help new students enjoy a simpler trading life.
This article will be shipped by E Mail back in time to Trader’s World Magazine for their next issue. Please be patient with us all.
Successful business-persons the world over, want to learn to trade, but they don’t want to expend any more effort than their ability to trade off their brains and common sense. Do you?
Computers and trading programs and trading systems should be engineered to reduce trading to “seeing it all” in your head. Can you?
Hard work and long hours are what we do when we start out in life. Over forty it won’t work.
Successful, over 40 grown-ups don’t want to go back to college to learn to trade. Did you? Why should you? This should be easier when older.
Are you tired of having to learn how to see the obvious? Gann started it by teaching vague rules. So why not go back to him and ask why?
Do you gravitate toward the “complicated” or the “simpler” way to trade? Would you accept “simpler” if it were the same as random market rules? Who wouldn’t? My students say simpler.
Thinking smarter is an “adult adventure” toward a more successful way to trade. Smarter is simpler. Simpler is more profitable. yes no?
Why waste time reading, studying, or trading off random, occult math formulas, where everyone in the room has a different perspective of the same raw chart?
Trading systems should be a tool to “mental freedom” and should educate you so you may be able to answer the phone and contact your broker and (you) tell him what, when and where and how much short-term profit you expect from any trade.
Rob Philberts and his brother run a construction company, build homes, and roads, and have children in school, have planes and civic duties, so they don’t have the personal “training time” to waste learning another trading system or to use software. They see MM in their heads now.
I paid my own way, from the US, and flew to Brisbane, Australia two weeks ago at the invitation of Mr. Stephen Lewis, to speak (again for free) to his Australian Technical Trading Association, which totaled 140 active traders.
I had no idea anyone would want to learn from me. But they paid cheap to learn and they filled our classrooms to overflowing.
I knew my 7 “original” students would welcome me. And they did. And we are merely sharing The Murrey Math Trading System. 100.
We are thrilled with the beauty of Australia and its hospitality. Anyone would love trading here.
Life is too short to study our lives away or not spend it with friends who enjoy a simpler trade.
We have had six different Murrey Math Learning Academy meetings so far in Brisbane, and everyone has welcomed a new way of thinking that is a simpler way to approach Gann, by doing it Murrey’s way, our way. Your way?
We are sharing the simple “Three Rule” Trading System set to our Murrey Math Trading System with very intelligent Australian “traders” who want to convert to small profits.
Did Gann use “exact” math or random prices? He told you random, but he traded off pure Murrey Math. Most gurus trade differently.
How did Gann approach Time Reversals? Does price always come back to old highs or lows?
Please, get real. Dow 40 again! Sure. Do you think the Dow 30 stocks will ever go back to 37.50 points off 1932 low? Please change rule.
Are Murrey and Gann together on Price and Time: The Square in Time! Yes!
W. D. Gann has a “classic” May (1st week) 1948 Soybean Chart where he matched up his starting date to my Murrey Math Trading System’s starting date of the Harvest Moon, which he started the 1st week in October, which is when we begin each trading frame (new season).
The last article in Trader’s World Magazine by Miles Wilson, showed a “classic” chart of Gann’s showing a lot scribbled lines (just to confuse you) and the exact price of the reversal off MMTL.
Gann used the same starting time as Murrey Math. We agree. You too?
Gann used his “classic” 3/8th or 5/8th reversals to predict future price reversals.
In 1929, the Dow 30 Stocks topped out + 1/8th above 3/8th MM which is pure logic. (chart # 1).
In 1932, the Dow 30 stocks reversed off + 1/8th 3/8th MM which is pure math. (chart # 2).
T. Henning Murrey’s Pure Math Internal Octave Harmonic Trading Frame has now reached over 25,000 new “students, who want Gann easy. Dow in same MMTL for 6 months.
The all time high in the Dow 30 stocks reversed exactly +1/8th above 8/8th MM. (see chart # 3).
In 1970 the Dow 30 stocks reversed off 6,250 (pure 100%) Murrey Math. The list goes on.
Here are four different trading “areas” of so-called random reversals in 75 years, that reversed every time off pure Fibonacci Math, which are preset to Murrey Math Octaves.
Please look at any chart from 1929, 1932, 1999 up to present and you will “see” the American stock market has reversed every time off pure math set to the Base of Ten. No study required.
How could Murrey Math have predicted all these reverses with no rules? Price sets its own 3/8th and 5/8th and we just stand back and look.
Simple: we used the Gann rules (he didn’t tell you about). He just laughed and rolled over in his trading pit. Gann told you on page 68.
Did you believe him when he told you the markets were random, but exact only when you took and random high or low and divided it by eight? There is no logic there except for rookies.
Gann kept a secret or would you rather stay confused, so you don’t have to take responsibility for your trading losers or where to trade?
Why? You knew no better until now. Would you like to figure out what Nikki Jones, who owns the copyrights of all of Gann’s books, really knows to be the rules? She flew into to Brisbane, Australia, this week to be part of a 5 day seminar about Gann set to Mr. B.’s views of Gann.
Mr. B. charges up to $ 25,000 per student and I will give my software “free” (trial) to anyone who asks for it who is willing to change their “habit” from random to logic off 100.
Everyone is knocking off my software now anyway because it is the standard now, since it is based on 3,120 years of logic (I won’t explain to you) Why? You don’t need to know: just trade.
Pure Logic Quiz: Did you believe him (Gann) when he told you the markets were random, but exact only when you took and random high or low and divided it by eight? Go figure.
Adults think wrong! Children listen. Why? You knew no better until now.
This afternoon Michael Eves, Robina, Australia, came by with his wife and two children to meet with me and Stephen Lewis and Amy Scott to look at a simpler way to see Gann.
We exchanged greetings and the two girls, Katie and Mallory, asked if I were Mr. Murrey from the states. I taught them to use my software fast.
I said yes, then one of the girls asked if I knew Mr. Bill Gates. I said that he knew me but I had never met him (yet). They thought every smart man knew one another in the states. Ha Ha.
After one hour of debate over 16, 32, or 64 day trading frames, I tired of the dialogue, so I proposed a bet of $ 12,500, off my trading system set to pure math and their idea that all markets are random, except when set after the fact off any highs or lows. Pure Gann theory.
I said I would prove with my two new students Katie and Mallory, that all markets are exact off any given price movement (up or down) without any regard to “news” or perceived value.
I proposed that we would allow the two girls 5 and 8 be the price “movers” of any market the adults chose to evaluate.
I asked the girls if they would help me win a prize from the adults. They smiled and began.
I told them I would treat them to a dessert later if I won the $ 12,500. That made them happy.
I asked them if I had ever talked to them about trading the markets and they said it was all very ordinary (to them) at this time. It seemed a bit like some kind of adult cartoon to them (they guessed) or so it seemed.
I have won up to 200% per night, down here in Australia, in less than one hour, off my money, on bets in the casinos while I have been here and I have had Murrey Math “students” standing along side to prove how easy math makes money.
What “guru” would risk their reputation on two girls whose ages barely = 12.50 years? Murrey.
The rules were simple: 1) pen drawn lines (moving to the right) on a piece of blank typing paper would be the price movement of any stock the adults chose.
2) The typing paper would be the preset 8/8ths trading action. we would assign price later).
This supports the # 1 Gann Rule that markets will want to reverse in Price and Time off 3/8th and 5/8th anywhere they choose.
3) And want to get the greatest support and resistance off the 4/8th line and all markets want to get greatest resistance at any 45 degree angle inside any square of 64 or square of 32 or 16.
4) Plus all markets want to pivot or reverse most often off any 6/8th trading line.
What did the three of us have to prove? I had already made enough from the casinos to cover my side of the bet so here goes. The girls began.
The oldest girl started off first. Then her little sister followed. They chose their own path to set their market’s price run to the right.
Michael got out his Gann book and started going through Gann’s rules about: support, resistance, angles of reverses, lengths of runs, and overbought and oversold conditions as price moves to the right through time.
Katie, the oldest, Rolled-over the 4/8th line exactly on either side of exactly ½ the paper which was exactly our Trading Range of 3/8th and 5/8th of the full page. Roll-overs exist.
This 8 year old girl divided a blank piece of typing paper into 8 equal parts while she was drawing a line to the right and she reversed directions exactly after Time: 1/8th, 4/8th, 5/8th,
6/8th, and 7/8th. She had one run up that was exactly +5/8th in length exactly off her exact preset MMTLines she couldn’t see.
She reversed down the sharpest off her preset 45 degree angled line and 67 degree angle (that she knew but didn’t see). She made every move of the pen inside the 3/8th and 5/8th lines and her low as exactly off the 3/8th and her high was exactly off the 5/8th MMTLine. Go figure.
Her 5 year old sister took her turn next.
By now the adults had already handed me over the money. I wouldn’t take it. Would you take money from an adult off a child’s game?
Mallory struggled more with her direction (trying to keep going forward) but she finally made it to the other side.
We looked at her chart. She reversed in Time off: 2/8th, 3/8th, 6/8th, and 7/8th exactly.
She kept her entire set of lines between the 4/8th and 6/8th lines MMTLines (except one). She went +1/8th above the 8/8th line, which Gann said markets would move higher on positive news no more than a +1/8th or +2/8th. Then they would fall back down into its present trading area (8/8th). She had one up move of exactly +5/8th and she had one down move of exactly –6/8th (MM).
How could two children make me $ 12,500 off a dead man’s rules? I said they would run the lines off exact proportions of a piece of typing paper folded into 8 equal parts. They did without knowing they knew. So do you. Do you?
Everyone wants a free lesson about how to trade, but I let the girls show me what trading is.
These two Australian girls know how to see without looking at Price or Time. Can you?
They inherently knew what W. D. Gann didn’t say about the Internal Octave of 100. These little girls understand Binary Math exactly.
If you don’t believe me, please contact their school, which is located at Miami State Primary School, Oceanic Drive, Miami, Australia, 42220.
But it will cost you $100.to contact her, which is payable to her school’s building fund.
100. divided by 8 = 12.50. Every market (Gann said is set to 12.50% inside 100). 1,000 divided by 8 = 125.
The high in the Dow 30 stocks in 1929 fell fast and hard off +3/8th (inside 1,000). And, in 1932, the low in the Dow 30 stocks reversed off 3/8th of 100, which is 37.50. My MM girls can divide any square (on the base of ten) by 8, which will predict the all-time high and low of the Crash.
3/8th of 100 is equal to 3/8th of 1,000. Do you see?
You need no more trading education than to see, believe, understand and react to 1/8ths or 3/8ths or 5/8th inside any square. You must start with the square of 100 and then work out to: 1,000,
then 10,000, then 100,000, then 1,000,000.
If you need to more about trading than this, you will be falling into the rookie “traders’ trap.”
Two girls in Australia inherently know Murrey Math without being told to understand it. Do you? If you can’t see the obvious of how to trade off our MMTFrame then we need to go back to where a 3.12 year old learns to stay in the yard.
No matter what I say in an article, more Gann traders want to learn like the girls. Do you?
There were 8 adult witnesses to the lines drawn by my new Australian students.
The girls said they would come to any meeting and display how price moves to right through time as long it is only a bicycle ride away and its not dark, plus some free ice cream. What a deal.
The “free” knowledge traders will love talking to the girls, but free ice cream? Who knows!
Gann wrote the famous book The Tunnel Thru The Air, published by Gann Lambert, with rights owned by Nikki Jones, who is right now in Australia speaking “Gann.”
My two students know the tunnel thru reality. Please Gann’s book, then draw a graph on a clean sheet of paper and you will see the same thing: logic set (already) inside your head.
Reality is only where you are right now. Every time you read anything you are confused if you don’t come to knowledge thru the Murrey Math Mindset Square of 64, which I shall share with you next time.
My new 8 year old student fixed 64 numbers to the Square of 64 (with only one hint). Remarkable. Her parents were standing right beside her, when she did it. She doesn’t choke.
Folks, I have found Gann and Murrey Math inside the heads of two girls: one 8 and one 5=13.
13 = pure logic, wisdom and knowledge.
